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Debora Tsung
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Posted - 2013.02.14 16:06:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:It has a few oddities in how it pays out the bounties as it can happen for dead players to receive a payout, too, even when they have lost in a fight. This is the case when CONCORD or another police force kills a player does it then simply pick the first next player involved in the fight. To me does this make little sense as I see bounties as a reward and dying in the process just does not fit in here.
I am also not sure how it is handled when two corporation members (of the same corporation) kill each other and their corporation has a bounty on it. From what I have read does it then pay out the corporation bounty to the corporation members, which again makes little sense to me.
Since the bounty payout is only 20% of the forcefully decomissioned ship, it does make sense. You (the despicable person that voluntarily stays in a corporation that most assuredly encourages antisocial behaviour) loose more than You earn when You kill Your corp mates.
EDIT: that is to say, the corp as a whole looses more than it earns. You however, despicable and antisocial as You are earn ISK in the process. I say kill them all, get rich and the leave the corp. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:37:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Since the bounty payout is only 20% of the forcefully decomissioned ship, it does make sense. You (the despicable person that voluntarily stays in a corporation that most assuredly encourages antisocial behaviour) loose more than You earn when You kill Your corp mates.
EDIT: that is to say, the corp as a whole looses more than it earns. You however, despicable and antisocial as You are earn ISK in the process. I say kill them all, get rich and the leave the corp. If I took your point of view, then it must be allowed to self-destruct and claim 20% of one's own bounty... which is not allowed. If I want corp members to kill each other over a bounty can I place individual bounties on the members. Here it makes sense, because these are individually placed bounties. I want corporation bounties to be different from individual player-bound bounties so that corporation members cannot get any ISKs from it. Some corporations then hold little PvP matches, where they destroy their own assets purposely, but to train their pilots. I do not want a corporation bounty to serve here as a payment for such events. Or imagine a high corporation bounty when a new player starts awoxing it. It would play right into the awoxer's hands.
No, You cannot and certainly not by my point of view claim bounties placed on yourself. And even IF you could it'd be of no use to you since you loose more than You'd gain by that. It works as it should be, in a strictly technically sense a bounty is 100% harmfull to the one who's head is on the wanted poster.
And yes, "awoxing" was just what I was talking about, in that regard I don't see any problem with the current bounty system, if anything I'd even raise the payout to 30 - 40% of the destroyed assets.
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:04:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:No, You cannot and certainly not by my point of view claim bounties placed on yourself. Right, but I can use an alt. Now explain why a corporation can claim their own bounty. And do not say because of awoxing. If I want to awox myself then I should have the same right as anybody else no matter if I use an alt or through self-destruct. I call it a paradox, but I am curious how you will explain it.
Which is completely and utterly useless as You still loose more than You gain. It'd be cheaper just to transfer the money from one alt to another.
regarding alts: everyone could be everyones alt, being in the same corp is not a valid indicator. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:55:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Which is completely and utterly useless as You still loose more than You gain. It'd be cheaper just to transfer the money from one alt to another.
regarding alts: everyone could be everyones alt, being in the same corp is not a valid indicator. So why is one not allowed to directly cash in on one's own bounty? Because it is meant to make abuse difficult! And why is it allowed for corporations to cash in on themselves? Because CCP did not think it through and so it is being abused. Conclusion: I cannot recommend anyone to use corporation or alliance bounties for this reason - do not use them. Instead, place individual bounties on only a few members and hope it does not encourage abuse as much as corporation/alliance bounties do. If I wanted to put ISKs into the pockets of those players who I want to place a bounty on then there is already an easier way.
I don't even know why You're saing that, it's nonsense. Being in the same corp doesn't mean You're the same person and I cannot stress this point enough, just because You can kill corp mates and cash in their bounty doesn't mean you can actually abuse that system. The corp as a whole looses more than it gains by this practice.
I really do not get Your point. If You want Your bounties to be cashed in only by certain people then I suggest to not use the bounty system at all and hire some mercs instead. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:07:00 -
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Mikhael Taron wrote:Malcanis wrote: Since implants are no big deal, could I trouble you to contract me a few dozen +5 sets? I forgot to pick some up when I went to the store and now I'm all out.
Smartarse one-liners do not a point make. Also, never wear anything you can't afford to lose. Even noobs know that one.
Dude, that wasn't just a one liner, those were clearly two lines, two sentences even ... o_O
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:17:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: unlocks associated with those skills, namely the ability for a 'bounty hunter' to make a bountied person (with negative sec status) go suspect or limited engagement to him in HISEC
No. if the sec status is negative enough You can attak him/her/it anyway. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:22:00 -
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Mikhael Taron wrote:Malcanis wrote:Mikhael Taron wrote:Malcanis wrote: Since implants are no big deal, could I trouble you to contract me a few dozen +5 sets? I forgot to pick some up when I went to the store and now I'm all out.
Smartarse one-liners do not a point make. Also, never wear anything you can't afford to lose. Even noobs know that one. You tried to say that gettin podded is "no big deal". If I got podded right now it would mean I had to replace ~600-700M worth of implants. If losing ships and pods is so trivial, then I'd say that the punishment fits the cirme. Again: don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Basic wisdom in Eve. Losing 100,000 SP. Now THAT'S a big deal.
Big deal or no, the punishement in his case would mutlate into real life since time cannot be replaced. It is therefore not desirable to implement such a half arsed feature. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.04.11 09:16:00 -
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Mikhael Taron wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Mikhael Taron wrote:Malcanis wrote: Since implants are no big deal, could I trouble you to contract me a few dozen +5 sets? I forgot to pick some up when I went to the store and now I'm all out.
Smartarse one-liners do not a point make. Also, never wear anything you can't afford to lose. Even noobs know that one. Dude, that wasn't just a one liner, those were clearly two lines, two sentences even ... o_O "Dude", that was two one-liners, both of which were fail attempts at smartarse humour. Do keep up.
True, but unlike You, he was right.  There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
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